Unions at 'Work"

[Realitycheck]

I told ya so;

http://www.labourwatch.com/forms/bcb...20_2006_08.pdf

Unions are slowly, too slowly, driving themselves out of business. The current CUPE strike is a case in point.

There are many advantages to losing unions;

http://www.labourwatch.com/forms/Sha...2006_FINAL.pdf

With luck, we will soon follow the Europeans...did you know that you can't be forced to join a union here?

http://gsa.lexi.net/search?q=cache:x...ch_en&oe=UTF-8

Best news I have heard all day.

[Realitycheck]

http://news.google.ca/news/url?sa=t&...cid=1121558439

Foley rolls over and gives them everything they want and they still aren't satisfied. I say fire them all, get rid of this irresponsible union, which certainly is not serving it's members and hire people who want to work, on contracts where advancement is predicated upon ability and hard work, not union seniority or length of time in harness.

[Realitycheck]

Because of the stubborn power play by CUPE, kids at risk are doing without the workers who might help them. Didn't I hear Po' Carol just recently telling us how important these kids are and how we need to do everything in our power to help them?

Why don't I hear Po' Carol now?

Hundreds of senior citizens have been locked in their homes for months, thanks to CUPE's intransigence. They are not getting they care they need, not getting the meals they need, not getting other services they need provided by the city.

I am sure I recently heard PO' Carole lamenting the shoddy treatment seniors get, the lack of services provided and various and sundry other complaints.

Why don't I hear Po' Carole now?

Just wonderin'.

[Mr. Bum]

Originally Posted by Realitycheck

http://news.google.ca/news/url?sa=t&...cid=1121558439

Foley rolls over and gives them everything they want and they still aren't satisfied. I say fire them all, get rid of this irresponsible union, which certainly is not serving it's members and hire people who want to work, on contracts where advancement is predicated upon ability and hard work, not union seniority or length of time in harness.

Unions didn't so much bargain as put the city under siege -- and it backfired

Pete McMartin, Vancouver Sun
Published: Thursday, October 11, 2007
Pardon my smile.

But the Vancouver civic strike is over.

Officially, it might drag on for a few more days, even weeks. The garbage might continue to ferment in the back alley, the weeds in the park might enjoy a few more days' reprieve.


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Font:****But this fight is finished.

The unions lost everything while -- delicious irony, here -- they won almost everything they wanted.

The end came with the admission that anywhere between 50 to 65 per cent of outside civic workers had found jobs in the real world. Not only that, but those striking" union members were making so much money in their new jobs that the majority of them, according to union spokesmen, were vowing never to return to city hall once a contract was ratified. "Life was too good on the outside .
This was intended as a threat as much as a boast. It implied:

We don't need your stinking bargaining! We can last this out as long as we have to!

It backfired. Citizens -- and not a few of their union brothers and sisters enduring picket duty, I'll bet -- could only wonder at the hubris of it.

What of the etiquette of union solidarity? Do a majority of outside civic workers feel it is good form to take well-paying private sector jobs while their colleagues on the picket line survive on strike pay and doughnuts around a barrel fire?

What of citizens' sense that there could be no bargaining in good faith in so lopsided a situation? Outside civic workers can prolong negotiations indefinitely by taking outside work, but the public has no recourse to hiring replacement workers? How could there be anything but complete surrender to union demands? It wasn't bargaining the union was conducting: it was a siege.

When the union leadership tried to respond to criticisms of their members taking outside work, their response was that their members were only taking "vacant" jobs in the private sector. So they weren't, like, you know, reverse scabs displacing private-sector labourers out there looking for work. They were filling a need!

One, the excuse was fatuous and unprovable -- after all, all jobs are vacant at one time or another -- and two, it had the air of craven self-justification. It didn't wash.

Then came the biggest blow to the union's public relations. When once the union had the momentum by its clever, and unfair, campaign of painting this as "Sam's Strike" -- meant to force the image-sensitive Mayor Sullivan to cave -- that campaign and public goodwill evaporated when a minority of Local 1004 members forced the union to reject mediator Brian Foley's recommendations.

A majority of 57 per cent of city workers voted to accept Foley's contract offers (as did a majority of 58 per cent in the park board).

And in the normal course of democratic institutions, which unions insist they are paragons of, it would have been enough to get the garbage moving again.

Under its arcane constitution, Local 1004 insists that a plurality of 66 per cent is needed to ratify a contract, for reasons not quite clear, at least to me. The union at The Sun feels 51 per cent is enough to carry the day: most unions do. So one has to wonder where Local 1004 adopted its model of equitable representation. Perhaps the Chinese National Congress

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Rc.... you got your wish ... lazy civil servants ..... ha ha ha ha

Sucker !!!!!!!!

[Realitycheck]

You made my day.

[Mr. Bum]

Originally Posted by Realitycheck

You made my day.

Don't you find it .. JUST and little odd that a civc strike that dragged on for months was settled in a day..

Now we know good old RC here doesn't like civic worker's .. but .. mmmm
let's see " anywhere between 50 to 65 per cent of outside civic workers had found jobs in the real world. Not only that, but those striking" union members were making so much money in their new jobs that the majority of them, according to union spokesmen, were vowing never to return to city hall once a contract was ratified. " what does that tell you ...

Sounds like your picking up your own garbage ..RC...

[Realitycheck]

I live in Victoria. Not to worry, many of those folks will be back once they fuind out they actually have to show up on time and do the job. For those who find reality much more comforting than union life, good for them and there are any number of slackers waiting to take those cushy union jobs...got yer application in?

[utsamad]

http://www.globeinvestor.com/servlet...our19/GIStory/

Bwaahahaha

[Realitycheck]

Well, they settled the strike nobody noticed...the forestry dispute.

Guess what? Once more the union and the militant thugs, screwed it's membership.

Hard on the heels of the new contract, comes word of layoffs. Why? Because usually the companies spend the summer building up inventory so they can run the mills over the winter.

But, since the union decided to have it's members off during the harvest time, there is no inventory and no work.

When will you poor sods wake up to the reality of just how little your unions care for you?

[MYPETPIGS]

Stick to washing dishes URC. You obviouly haven't a clue about the logging industry. Brasscan ring a bell for you boy?

[utsamad]

Here we have it Folks all neatly Tucked in a Handbasket again . I Quote the Last paragraph of the Article in the following Link.

Once again Public sector NDP Parasites and their Unions demonstrate their Ignorance and Hatred of the Private Sector who Generates the Real Taxes to keep them Employed……………Taxes which they will never pay and never Have.

It is the Exact Same Dogma as in Regard to Healthcare and Dreaded Private Sector Involvement.

Yes………….this confirms my belief beyond a shadow of a Doubt……………and proof that Public Sector Unions need to be Exterminated


http://www.globeinvestor.com/servlet...RTY27/GIStory/


However critics such as unions have criticized the strategy. Involving the private sector raises costs and sacrifices service quality, Paul Moist, national president of the Canadian Union of Public Employees, said yesterday.

[utsamad]

Here we have it Folks all neatly Tucked in a Handbasket again . I Quote the Last paragraph of the Article in the following Link.

Once again Public sector NDP Parasites and their Unions demonstrate their Ignorance and Hatred of the Private Sector who Generates the Real Taxes to keep them Employed……………Taxes which they will never pay and never Have.

It is the Exact Same Dogma as in Regard to Healthcare and Dreaded Private Sector Involvement.

Yes………….this confirms my belief beyond a shadow of a Doubt……………and proof that Public Sector Unions need to be Exterminated


http://www.globeinvestor.com/servlet...RTY27/GIStory/

Notice that it refers to Unions as the Critics..........(Public sector Unions of Course) which also goes to Prove that Public sector Unions are their own distinct Entity and consider themselves High and above the Privater Sector.........APPARENTLY NOT EVEN RECOGNIZING THE lATTER.

This Despite all the Lies that Public sector Unions are out to improve Working Conditions for All.



Quote:However critics such as unions have criticized the strategy. Involving the private sector raises costs and sacrifices service quality, Paul Moist, national president of the Canadian Union of Public Employees, said yesterday.

[Realitycheck]

there are more union members working in BC since the demise of the NDP?

http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/n...a4c6f39&k=5224

Tpwards the edn of the reign Of Error, the NDP were starting to slough off their union pals in hopes of suckering the oublic to support them. With these kinds of jobless figures, it seems it would be much more in the Union's interest to slough off the NDP. Ah, but dogma must be served.