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Old 03-20-2004, 10:52 AM
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AHA ------ YOU ADMIT IT. THE NDP ARE ALSO ENVIRONMENTALLY CONCERNED!!!!!!!! Was that so hard?

Maybe that was a silly answer!

The NDP are environmentally concerned, but if they perceive that there is a conflict between jobs and envronment (even though there needn't be), they will dump the environment in a wink.
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Rick,

Do you have any information as to what hemp farms are in operation now? Are there very many?

I found this link for trials in the BC Peace: http://www.agf.gov.bc.ca/croplive/pl...crp/i-hemp.htm

but am wondering how any current operations might be doing. Thanks.
Didn't see a real answer to this link Sammy, but Rick is busy using 'plastic' etc., while still talking about Clearcuts, which haven't been happening in years, while talking about Hemp like its ALL available NOW, while talking about Trees not being re-planted, which has been done for years, even before the last mandate of the NDP.

Don't let any facts get in the way.

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Old 03-21-2004, 07:16 AM
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[b]ALL available NOW/B]
Oh! YOu want something available NOW! That's like talking th elaszt pickle from the pickle jar, then complaining about where's the pickles! Got to plan ahead, Opie! Not just take the money and spend it like there;s not tomorrow. But that's what the forestry "business" has done.

And oh yess, I must apologize. There are no more clearcuts. Now they are called "cutblocks". And those great open swatches of ex-forest land, are figments of my imagination.......

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http://www.hempworld.com/Hemp-CyberF...ada/BC/bc.html

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Old 03-21-2004, 07:18 AM
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Rick,

Do you have any information as to what hemp farms are in operation now? Are there very many?

I found this link for trials in the BC Peace: http://www.agf.gov.bc.ca/croplive/pl...crp/i-hemp.htm

but am wondering how any current operations might be doing. Thanks.
http://www.hempworld.com/Hemp-CyberF...ada/BC/bc.html

http://www.jackherer.com/
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Rick, thanks for the links. For the record, I was just curious as to what movement there might be in this type of farming.

There was someone in this area that was going to start a hemp farm, to experiment with this, but I never heard any more if he was successful or not.

I do think it is something that should be taken more seriously than it is.
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Old 03-21-2004, 08:35 AM
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Rick, thanks for the links. For the record, I was just curious as to what movement there might be in this type of farming.

There was someone in this area that was going to start a hemp farm, to experiment with this, but I never heard any more if he was successful or not.

I do think it is something that should be taken more seriously than it is.
A couple of farmers here tried test plots of hemp acouple of years ago, but I haven't heard anything since. It seems the "children" thought the hemp would make a great smoke, and trampled one of the plots. So there may be some secrecy involved now, because of the ignorance out there.
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A couple of farmers here tried test plots of hemp acouple of years ago, but I haven't heard anything since. It seems the "children" thought the hemp would make a great smoke, and trampled one of the plots. So there may be some secrecy involved now, because of the ignorance out there.
Meanwhile - how many years, how many thousands of Un-employed ? ?

As the lay-offs continue.

Would think the Greens would have SOMETHING they could suggest for people, who they'd prefer to see Un-employed apparently.

The Hemp one isn't flying, or the Mud huts.
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Meanwhile - how many years, how many thousands of Un-employed ? ?

As the lay-offs continue.

Would think the Greens would have SOMETHING they could suggest for people, who they'd prefer to see Un-employed apparently.

The Hemp one isn't flying, or the Mud huts.
So, what would be your solution?

I haven't seen anything on the NDP web site that would give me any confidence in them.
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Old 03-21-2004, 02:17 PM
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Meanwhile - how many years, how many thousands of Un-employed ? ?

As the lay-offs continue.

Would think the Greens would have SOMETHING they could suggest for people, who they'd prefer to see Un-employed apparently.

The Hemp one isn't flying, or the Mud huts.
So you ARE a closet Lib, wanting to (as I said in another post) cut, cut, cut, and cut some more. You're only beef it seems, is that right now the Libs are cutting and their friends are putting th mney intheir pockets, instead of workers pckets. But what are going to do when the wood's all gone? You don't seem to have any answers here, OPie.
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Old 03-23-2004, 04:21 PM
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So you ARE a closet Lib, wanting to (as I said in another post) cut, cut, cut, and cut some more. You're only beef it seems, is that right now the Libs are cutting and their friends are putting th mney intheir pockets, instead of workers pckets. But what are going to do when the wood's all gone? You don't seem to have any answers here, OPie.
Cause she doesn't have any. As long as the money goes into the union, and thence to the NDP pockets she's happy. otherwise...
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Cause she doesn't have any. As long as the money goes into the union, and thence to the NDP pockets she's happy. otherwise...
The 'gang' of two can give up - I ignore stupid remarks like above.

FYI Trip - as a new one on here, on a forum many have left, it's been stated in earlier years on here - I've never been union.

Maybe you could e-mail one another, get yourself up to date on Opie.
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Old 03-23-2004, 10:01 PM
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The 'gang' of two can give up - I ignore stupid remarks like above.

FYI Trip - as a new one on here, on a forum many have left, it's been stated in earlier years on here - I've never been union.

Maybe you could e-mail one another, get yourself up to date on Opie.
I never said you were union.
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Have anything better than this below ?

Like the topic - or the weather, or what the Liberals are doing in B.C. for past 3 years ?

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Cause she doesn't have any. As long as the money goes into the union, and thence to the NDP pockets she's happy. otherwise...
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Old 03-24-2004, 05:21 AM
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Have anything better than this below ?

Like the topic - or the weather, or what the Liberals are doing in B.C. for past 3 years ?

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Cause she doesn't have any. As long as the money goes into the union, and thence to the NDP pockets she's happy. otherwise...
Do YOU have anything better to suggest, Opie? As Trobin said: "I haven't seen anything on the NDP web site that would give me any confidence in them."

Can you dispute this in any substantive way? You claim the greens have no policy. So what is the policy of the NDP that would inspire confidence?
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Do YOU have anything better to suggest, Opie? As Trobin said: "I haven't seen anything on the NDP web site that would give me any confidence in them."

Can you dispute this in any substantive way? You claim the greens have no policy. So what is the policy of the NDP that would inspire confidence?
Well Rick - like any good Rightie also pushing Carole James, I'd have thought you'd have know some of the answers, they're obvious enough to me.

Take a read on David Schreck -

See http://www.StrategicThoughts.com

Reaction to a Good Poll

Just because an organization is good at conducting public opinion polls doesn't mean that it is capable of interpreting the results. Ipsos-Reid accompanied the release of its March poll on voting intentions with a statement saying that "The NDP might want to avoid patting themselves on the back for their boost in support. Only 44 percent of NDP voters say they are supporting the party because they think the NDP would do a good job governing the province. A majority (55%) are supporting the NDP because they dislike the other options available."

There is an enormous difference between asking which party you support and asking why. Answers to the first question are mutually exclusive but answers to why can involve many reasons which are not mutually exclusive. If I were asked I would say that the NDP would do a better job than the BC Liberals but the primary reason for my vote is an intense dislike for what Campbell is doing; the poll would put me in the 55% category but it would be wrong to interpret my response the way Ipsos-Reid spun its results.

As expected the poll brought out attacks on the NDP and Carole James. On March 20th, the Vancouver Sun ran a human interest article on Carole James' background and a lead editorial saying that she must reveal the party's platform. The news media knows that the release of the full platform 14 months before the election would mean that as May 17, 2005, approaches they would say the NDP is offering nothing new because the platform had been revealed so early. One of the many consequences of a fixed election date is that every detail of the campaign can be planned well in advance, including the time schedule for feeding the media bits and pieces so as to keep news flowing. New Democrats love debating policy and have hundreds of policy resolutions that have been passed at convention and council. How that policy is interpreted in the context of 2005, and what gets emphasis in the platform will be revealed as we get much closer to the election date.

It appears that the Campbell caucus is greatly disturbed by the latest poll.

Thanks to Elayne Brenzinger's interview with Province columnist Michael Smyth, we know that government backbenchers carefully rehearse the questions they use to exhaust half of question period. That makes their behaviour on March 22nd particularly strange. Three backbenchers asked questions; between them and the ministers who responded, they mentioned Carole James by name 7 times. That brilliant strategy is similar to the way they responded to Brenzinger's resignation. Instead of being polite and letting the story die, they gave it legs with days of effort to discredit her.

By attacking James and distorting her positions, they draw attention to their fear of her popularity. Since many of them are in jeopardy of losing their seats, that fear is understandable but you'd think they would try not to show it.

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The news media knows that the release of the full platform 14 months before the election would mean that as May 17, 2005, approaches they would say the NDP is offering nothing new because the platform had been revealed so early.
So the NDP doesn't have to reveal it's platform fr strategic reasons, but you want the Greens to reveal theirs? I truly don't get it, Opie!
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So the NDP doesn't have to reveal it's platform fr strategic reasons, but you want the Greens to reveal theirs? I truly don't get it, Opie!
It's simple Rick, they're special, they're so much better then everyone else that they can follow their own rules.
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So the NDP doesn't have to reveal it's platform fr strategic reasons, but you want the Greens to reveal theirs? I truly don't get it, Opie!
Eventually you will.
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Eventually you will.
Or perhaps you will........
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